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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 07:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[a mix of what Peter mentioned { Blind Kiwi } and me home alone I got a bit carried away from about the 2 minute mark on ward ..But I had fun Cheers]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=490569&amp;songID=5323456">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=490569&amp;songID=5323456</a><br><br>Is a mix of what Peter mentioned { Blind Kiwi } and me home alone I got a bit carried away from about the 2 minute mark on ward ..But I had fun <br><br>Cheers]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey Trevor,Not much to add here, but two things themes from the notes so far bear repeating.You&#039;re doing great on the recording.  Many of us likely were or still are uncomfortable with our o...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey Trevor,<br><br>Not much to add here, but two things themes from the notes so far bear repeating.<br><br>You're doing great on the recording.  Many of us likely were or still are uncomfortable with our own voices.  I'm not sure how long you've been singing, but it does take practice.   Some people here have been singing for decades and some are naturally gifted ( some have both going for them ).  You'll never win the comparison game no matter how good you get, but if you've found an area to improve go for it.  There are resources online. ( I think the Improve Your Voice podcast is out of Australia :) )<br><br>Secondly, I'll second Vics note on avoiding phrasing that you'd never use in real life.  It's not that there aren't commericial songs that fall into that trap, it's just to challenge you to work for it.  Honestly, I'm impressed with everyone who writes and records anything before Saturday night.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This is very, very good. Don&#039;t be so hard on yourself though, man.As Vic pointed out, a guy like Hendrix was very shy about his voice when in fact it&#039;s not so bad. He was so shy, when he fir...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[This is very, very good. Don't be so hard on yourself though, man.<br><br>As Vic pointed out, a guy like Hendrix was very shy about his voice when in fact it's not so bad. He was so shy, when he first started recording "Are you Experienced?" in 1967, he had a wall surrounding him so nobody could watch him sing.<br><br>So don't worry about. I'm not too fond of my voice either, but I've played around with it a lot. What I do to try and find "my right voice" is record myself while singing a long with some of my favorite songs and then play it back. I really found my voice there, and now I feel like I can sing more music.<br><br>Keep it up man, you're doing very good. :)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 04:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You are too hard on yourself - but.....I don&#039;t believe I am hard on myself hard enough to be honest mate , I always try to be the best I can , and I know right now I can be better I won&#039;t st...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You are too hard on yourself - but.....<br>I don't believe I am hard on myself hard enough to be honest mate , I always try to be the best I can , and I know right now I can be better I won't stop saying I suck till I reach a level of playing that I am comfortable with . I am the same with work , I m the same at home if I can do better god darn it I'm going re do it till I get it right for me .. 


...with that attitude you WILL get better! I know, I know, it's frustrating when your fingers or your voice won't go where you want - we've all been through that, and most of us - me included - still do. It's even more frustrating when you get told "practise, practise, practise"....but that's what it takes. <br>Vic yeah I do hate sponsors names splashed across a footy jersey but like the Carlsberg on my chest line you used Queensland jersey has XXXX splashed all over it , mmmmmmmm XXXX and footy now thats heaven

LOL that explains a lot......NOW I know why it's your favourite shirt......<br><br>Oh yeah - at one time I had a Liverpool shirt with Carlsberg across the chest, a St Helens shirt when they were sponsored by McEwans Lager, and a Lancashire (cricket) shirt from the days when they were sponsored by Tetley Bitter....<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 03:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the feed back really appreciated ..Where to start mmm I &#039; ll start from the last post work my way up if that&#039;s ok :)Vic &gt; Flossey Flousie ,  , a female who teases   ( I found a...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the feed back really appreciated ..<br><br>Where to start mmm I ' ll start from the last post work my way up if that's ok :)<br><br>Vic &gt; Flossey Flousie ,  , a female who teases   ( I found a quote that sums my spelling up for I am dreadful at spelling ) ..I have a question<br> "<I>This newbie I will not rue</I> "  now both you Vic and that Kiwi stuck up a gum  :lol: ( something I would pay good money to see by the way ) both commented on how it seems a rhyme and it is something that isn't said ..<br>But to me it does not seem that bad , you have to understand I live with a 15 year old boy and he speaks a a totally different laungage to me , <br>Example : Driveing along in my car with son , he spots a girl about his age walking along nods head and says "2 letters , yeah 2 letters " ..<br>I asked what did you say , he replied with wow old dude get with the lesson that babe was 2 letters Trev ..<br>2 letters i asked again ?? what drugs are you takeing boy I asked rather loudly , I was told to chill and that 2 letters meant QT as in cutie ..<br><br>My playing and singing , well its' not what I want to hear in my head I am alot better { aint we all } but I actually cringe when I hear myself and I did singing lessons I know what I am suppose to do maybe if I get a programme to alter my voice a bit that might help. My playing yeah sure it has improved , 4 years ago I had not even touched a guitar 3 years ago my fingers still ached in pain trying to press down those strings , so yeah it has improved , but look at where I was not so long ago ..<br><br>Pbee : M a t e  The verse you mentioned first 2 lines I started writting about the Matriarch , then remembered something you said along time ago to me in a thread . It went something like this , " You started well then all of a sudden you went somewhere different , try to keep the subject in your focus " not exactly what you said but along them lines ..<br>Then I added comfortable describes you so <I>you  </I> thought it was still about my footy jersey , ,,,<br>I don't believe I am hard on myself hard enough to be honest mate , I always try to be the best I can , and I know right now I can be better I won't stop saying I suck till I reach a level of playing that I am comfortable with . I am the same with work , I m the same at home if I can do better god darn it I'm going re do it till I get it right for me ..<br><br>Blind Kiwi : Kiwi up a gum tree there has to be a song in there :) <br>like I have mentioned I ll give you idea a go today everyone is about to go out for a couple of hours my big chance ..<br><br>Thanks guys for your time in reading my efforts and supplying advise , <br>Vic yeah I do hate sponsors names splashed across a footy jersey but like the  Carlsberg on my chest  line you used Queensland jersey has XXXX splashed all over it , mmmmmmmm XXXX and footy now thats heaven ..:)<br><br>cheers<br>Trev...]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 01:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yep - just what I thought. There&#039;s nothing wrong with the MP3. First thing that struck me is how much your guitar playing is improving - nice and rhythmic, good timing. Nothing fancy, but it...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yep - just what I thought. There's nothing wrong with the MP3. First thing that struck me is how much your guitar playing is improving - nice and rhythmic, good timing. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. As for your voice - well, look at some of the great artists....Dylan never could sing, when I saw him in '05 his voice was dreadful....Neil Young's voice? He was once told he'd never make it as a singer, he was too nasal and whiny. Hendrix was said to loathe his singing voice - to be honest I didn't think it was that bad. They've all got one thing in common though - the passion they put into their performances.<br><br>Your voice has character - and like the instrument you play, you need to develope your voice and practise your singing. I'm living proof of that - I used to hate my voice, I used to apologise for the vocals beforehand. Now I can actually tolerate it.....I have to, it's the only one I've got! Try the singing forum for some tips - there must be some good ones in there. But above all, don't be afraid of your voice - rather, learn how to use it and use the unique qualities in your voice to their best effect. Try singing in different keys until you find one you're comfortable with - the capo is your best friend there.<br><br>Above all, enjoy making your music - your guitar playing's coming on in leaps and bounds!<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 01:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Must be tongue-in-cheek week....This is pretty good Trev - I must be honest, I didn&#039;t spot the play on words PBee spotted, but I wasn&#039;t looking for it - I was concentrating on the shirt.It&#039;s...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Must be tongue-in-cheek week....<br><br>This is pretty good Trev - I must be honest, I didn't spot the play on words PBee spotted, but I wasn't looking for it - I was concentrating on the shirt.<br><br>It's ALL good up to here....<br><br>"The matriarch bought a newbie <br>Flash little sucker what a flossey <br>She said the time was due <br><br>I put the newbie on tonight <br>I was told bed now time is right <br>This newbie I will not rue"<br><br>Actually there's nothing really wrong with the first of those (triplets? as opposed to couplets?) except I don't understand "flossey" - tried to look it up can't find it anywhere, so it loses the meaning of that section.<br><br>The bit I really don't like is "This newbie I will not rue".....you'd never, EVER use a phrase like that in conversation, so why use it here? The line before that seems a little forced too.....try and make it a rule to write as you'd speak, maybe read the lines out loud to yourself - if they don't sound right to you, they won't to anyone else either....<br><br>It's nearly all good - just that little section needs re-doing. (Or explaining, in the case of "flossey"....)<br><br>OK, I'm off to lsten to the MP3 - and I'll bet it's nowhere near as bad as you make out.<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic<br><br>PS - Pretty cool shirt, I definitely prefer the oldie to the newbie - don't you wish, though, sports teams didn't have to have sponsors logos splattered all over them? Although in the case of a Liverpool shirt I don't really mind wearing Carlsberg on my chest - all you have to do in a noisy, crowded pub is catch the barmaid's eye and point......]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 00:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Trv,I like it, it might be tongue in cheek but there some nice things in there. Like the Matriarch. You may not have intended this, but the ambiguity of these lines is also good.
We&#039;ve been ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Trv,<br>I like it, it might be tongue in cheek but there some nice things in there. Like the Matriarch. You may not have intended this, but the ambiguity of these lines is also good.
We've been together for so long <br>Just like that old country song <br>Comfortable describes you.....
We don't know if your talking about the matriarch or the shirt, could be both â€“ great. You could take this song to other places with this ambiguity, like comparing the matriarch to the shirt.<br>but I still <B>think </B>I stink 
Trev the only place you stink is in YOUR head. <br>There's nothing wrong with your guitar playing, your timing is fine. OK the voice needs development, but so what, we could all use a bit of development, that's why we are here.<br>Don't be so bl**dy hard on yourself this isn't a competition this is about you exploring your creative side, and man have you ever done that.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 18:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks PeteI might give your suggestion a go in the morning as I finally get a day off ...mmm redo this song , my bit for the beginners colaboration { still scared of doing that }Mow the law...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks Pete<br><br>I might give your suggestion a go in the morning as I finally get a day off ...<br><br>mmm redo this song , my bit for the beginners colaboration <br>{ still scared of doing that }<br><br>Mow the lawn pick son up from the beach , baby sit the grandson , clean the pool and somewhere in there have a beer ..<br><br>Thanks for the words of encouragement mate , but I still think I stink ..<br><br>Trev..........&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 07:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I will now state I can not sing or play I was going to say it is a rough MP3  but that would be lieing as this is one of my better effortsTrevI re-reorede it and proved to myself I cant play...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I will now state I can not sing or play <br><br>I was going to say it is a rough MP3  but that would be lieing as this is one of my better efforts<br><br><br>Trev<br><br>I re-reorede it and proved to myself I cant play or sing so have a listen if you got nothing better to do <br><br><a href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=490569&amp;songID=5320157">http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=490569&amp;songID=5320157</a>]]></content:encoded>
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