https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Fri, 05 Jun 2026 02:24:01 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-350161 Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:06:56 +0000 :D]]> Sunday Songwriters Group straycat. https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-350161 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-350150 Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:27:47 +0000 :lol: can we eat it? :P :lol: :lol: :lol: I read/heard the "feel the power of love break through" line, oh boy! :lol:
hope you won't be offended but I thought this was fun! :D Not offended at all :wink:

Actually, after I posted "Million Dollar Baby" last year and wasn't tossed out of the forum :oops: , I really feel safe here....Thanks to you and other songwriters I am willing to be vulnerable and take chances.

On another forum I spent a lot of time on, I was constantly second guessing myself and wondering if I would be offending etc. So thanks to you and others willing to listen and comment....it's kind of hard to find a place on the Internet like this where peers are willing to share in this way.....group hug moment :note1: :note2: :note1: There are no heart icons on the smiles so music will have to do as it is close to all our hearts. :P :wink:

Thanks for the listen and post.

James]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-350150 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-350132 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:06:28 +0000
have to agree, this was a strange one :D
it was on the border to a-bit-cheesy-but-still-okay till I read/heard the "feel the power of love break through" line, oh boy! :lol:
hope you won't be offended but I thought this was fun! :D
....So watched about 10 Celine youtube videos to try to understand her "style".....Lyrically, it seems pretty bland singer to singee songs with the following words surfacing repeatedly: 'cause, love, power, feel, I, you, lost, fears. hilarous!
you seem to be able to flit from genre to different genre so easily I'll second that and am impressed (also at the amount of effort you put into analysing Ms Dion's style :wink: )!

so, one more serious comment before I go: like the way your voice is on the edge at the very beginning of the chorus :)

thanks for sharing!
cheers,
straycat.]]> Sunday Songwriters Group straycat. https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-350132 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349754 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:54:39 +0000 "Toffeerock?" Well, at least it makes for an interesting title if not genre :P

Thanks for the listen and post. :wink:

James

BTW I reworked "Tomorrow Never Dies" as well if you have time to give it another listen some time.]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349754 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349739 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:32:26 +0000
I can see where you'd have problems putting something "different" together - you seem to be able to flit from genre to different genre so easily.

Going to have to name a whole new genre after you! "Toffeerock?" - hmmmmm......

:D :D :D

Vic]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349739 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349670 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:47:55 +0000
Thanks for the listen and post, Jay. :D

James]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349670 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349666 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:08:20 +0000
I think you achieved your goal of writing a song like hers, but I'm not sure, these sorts of songs (I've written a few minimalist ones too) always seem to lack heart when reading them.

On the other hand they always seem to work better when listening to them :P Quite a good attempt all up, though I prefer your usual style, or at least something with a few more details. Hehe, this sounds really critical now... oops, I guess I just don't like Celine much. It's not you it's her haha]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jaythejoker https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349666 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349663 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:09:00 +0000
Well since we were supposed to do our opposite, I tried to write straightforward with no twist.....since like you said, Paul, I like them twists :twisted:

This was a strange experiment for me. I can't say I liked it, but I can't say I didn't. Basically, when I looked at the type of music I really don't like, I came up with love ballads....specifically Celine Dione.....sorry, Celine, if you are reading this post :roll: ....
....So watched about 10 Celine youtube videos to try to understand her "style".....Lyrically, it seems pretty bland singer to singee songs with the following words surfacing repeatedly: 'cause, love, power, feel, I, you, lost, fears.

Next I was looking at the structure of a minimalist approach with down played verses, a climb or pre-chorus build, and soaring choruses.

Then I tried to figure out what the range of the highest notes was I could hit and made that the "roof" of the chorus......

After putting it altogether, it was an unexpected result....to cap off the high notes and down play the verses, I started singing on the low end....ok really low end....basically, the basement low end :roll: Actually, if I was better at key changes during a song, there probably would have been a better solution. :?

For me the end result sounded more like Johnny Cash on cold meds than Celine's next Billboard Top 10 :shock: :roll: :lol:

In all though, like it or not, I think this might be a glimpse into a way of improving as songwriters.....not necessarily catering to our weaknesses, but stepping outside our patterns and writing songs for top recording artists/other artists. You have to get in "their" shoes so it feels like "their" song......so you can sell a song :mrgreen:

My daughter heard the song and said she liked it....go figure... :roll: .....she didn't even ask for anything after the compliment :lol: I know what I like musically will only be appealing to a small niche of people, but that's what I love about writing my own songs. :mrgreen:

Thanks for the listen and post, Paul. I'm glad you "enjoyed" the read and got so much out of it! :oops: :roll: :P :lol:

James]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349663 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349647 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:23:32 +0000 Nice little song, I can see the new minimalist approach coming to the fore here. Reads well my friend, I'll listen to it later. But I'm not going to let you get away with it so easily. I see that you couldn't resist the little twist which we have come to anticipate in your songs (your supposed to do something different remember :P ). I'm referring to these lines of course: Down on our knees I will cry by your side
When you're ready to try, together we'll rise Not that I think you should remove them or change them in any way as they are pivotal to the song, I just thought that I would tease you little bit

Cheers
Paul]]> Sunday Songwriters Group pbee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-349647 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-38735 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:30:32 +0000
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=896900&content=music

Wherever you go; whatever you choose
I am with you; win or loose
When the night feels so cold like it has no end
When you're lost reach out for a friend

Chorus
I will stand by you; I will stand by you
Feel the power of love break through
I will stand by you; I will stand by you
I will stay right here till you feel it too
I will stand by you

However long it takes I'll wait out the rain
I will hold you close; I will share your pain
Down on our knees I will cry by your side
When you're ready to try, together we'll rise

chorus

Bridge
Remember the hope there's a strength cause it's true
Believe in yourself like I believe in you

chorus]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8w20-stand-by-you/#post-38735