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aw, thanks a lot, Peter, for that kind compliment! :D
Fortune reading pancakes :roll: Brilliant! :lol: :lol: have you never noticed how pancakes tend to take all kinds of funny shapes in the pan? :P

thanks for pointing out the incongruencies in the imagery! the impression of the singee as optimist turning into pessimist is pretty close to what i had in mind- someone whose hopes have been disappointed (at some point in time before the song) and who has been gloomy (and unimaginative) ever since ... and the singer is trying to cheer up his/her friend now... but has to give up eventually or else will risk losing his/her own imagination and all those beautiful illusions .. (the "sunrise of surprise" attitude that g. k. chesterton was so fond of... if you have never heard his name before, don't worry, neither had i before this term, but he is well worth a read!!)
.. as for the brush strokes growing cold.. it's not really the brush strokes i meant to grow cold but the hopes! so the "in brush strokes" was just to say that the singee is delivering a rough, makeshift, selective picture (no no, not another image her.. let's replace picture by description) of his/her situation... makes sense? how could i tweak this to make the sense i was hoping it would? :lol:

thanks for all your comments and please excuse my late reply!
cheers,
straycat.]]> Sunday Songwriters Group straycat. https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-357319 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-356955 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:42:51 +0000
Good start :D Nice imagery. Fortune reading pancakes :roll: Brilliant! :lol:

The one idea that seems to conflict is:

you spoke in brush strokes of hopes
that grew cold in the shadow

I got the impression that the singee was the optimist but turned out being the pessimist that the relationship would stay together or develop.

Maybe the singer could be the one with brush strokes of hope:

I spoke to you in brush strokes of hopes
that grew cold in the shadow
.....imagery seems a bit too mixed as brush strokes don't grow cold....maybe a bit more tweaking here and there.

Thanks for sharing. :D

James]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-356955 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-355919 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:18:24 +0000
Only joking, Anne - as always, enjoyed the read, the usual Straycat imagery's all in place. Now if you can give me another week to decipher it......and another few days to work out how someone so young can create word paintings so vivid....you have really got to spend some time (in your already crowded curriculum) practising guitar, so's we can hear some of these songs!!!

:D :D :D

Vic]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-355919 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-39499 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 00:58:34 +0000 pancake future

we sat under your favourite billboard
the dancers were yawning across the road
in green rooms with open windows
and we'd said goodbye twice
but we didn't want to go home

you spoke in brush strokes of hopes
that grew cold in the shadow
of your monday disease
of falling asleep on
your theory books

and the only answer there was to your silence
i delivered it with grand confidence
and a disastrous smile
i, i said, i saw the future in a pancake
and it was golden, with a hedgehog rim of optimism

but you, in your gloom, you wouldn't listen

said clouds, said tea leaves, said astrology
said cats and crows and numbered frowns
head shake and toe beat, it was obvious
you neither defeated disbelief
nor were you willing to suspend it
i told you i saw the future in a pancake
and it was golden, golden
but you wouldn't listen

you went off mumbling
i stayed on the pavement
watching the light change
at quarter to four
and then again at seven

crossed my heart for the summer morning breeze
swore i'd seen the future in a pancake and the wind believed me
swore i'd seen the future in a pancake- the sparrows believed me

and i'll swear until today that i saw the future in a pancake
and am much better off for it

:D
cheers,
straycat.

p.s.: and it's (somewhat) singable, too :lol:]]> Sunday Songwriters Group straycat. https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y8week35-pancake-future/#post-39499