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IMO, you're a very accomplished songwriter/musician - and it's not like you even served an apprenticeship, you served up good lyrics and music from day one! - most of us had to go the process of writing garbage for the first few months or so till we got some good advice from our fellow would-be songwriters.

I think you've actually outgrown the SSG - you don't need these weekly suggestions to write songs, you just need to focus on what YOU want to write about. Having said that, I hope you won't leave us, because your critiques are thoughtful, insightful and usually spot on. I've changed many a weak line in my own songs at your suggestions, you're a very valuable contributor to this forum, and I know several other people have taken your suggestions on board as well.

So - keep on doing what you do, "Keep on keepin' on" as they say - and thanks for all your insights over the last few years. I'd be willing to bet REAL money I'm not the only one who thinks that way!

As Dylan used to say, "Rock On!"

8) 8) 8)

Vic]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367076 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367074 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 03:15:47 +0000
Thanks for the listen and posts. It sounds like from your comments on the song Songkran and this one that you've had to stretch just as much as a listener as I am as a songwriter :lol: :lol: :lol:

.....but I appreciate you taking the time to figure out what I'm trying to communicate......the alternative would be to just say "here's another jamestoffee post.....I'm not going to bother trying to figure this one out.... :roll: ".......But you really do take the time to listen to the words and music.....and I REALLY appreciate that from you, Vic (lover of blues and rock 'n roll 8) .

Well I can't say where the muse will lead week to week, but I always look forward to your replies :wink:

Cheers,

James]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367074 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367063 Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:33:12 +0000
It's always interesting to read your lyrics, James, and try and guess what kind of music you're going to put with them. Sometimes I'm close, sometimes not - this was one of the latter times. I had a sneaking feeling you were going to go dark and gothic, maybe even heavy metal - but you seemed to capture the mood OK.

As always, very interesting....well put together, especially at short notice. I've a feeling this one might be a grower rather than instantly catchy....might take a couple of listens or so to get round my preconceptions.

:D :D :D

Vic]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367063 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367016 Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:03:32 +0000 I'm ok with that. Gamers need their songs too!....Regarding upbeat music....yes that happy Samurai is hard to keep melancholy :wink: What a memory you have! :mrgreen:

Happy Samurai is good though - warrior attributes, a strong code of ethics, and an overall upbeat approach. I wouldn't mind enrolling in the school of Happy Samurai... :note1: :note2:

Cheers,

Chris]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Chris C https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-367016 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-366972 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:42:34 +0000
Thanks for the listens and posts :D
I'm not entirely sure that non gamers would pick it all up, especially as the music is rather upbeat for the subject, but that's for others to say. I'm ok with that. Gamers need their songs too!....Regarding upbeat music....yes that happy Samurai is hard to keep melancholy :wink:
I enjoyed it in a rather cheerily nostalgic way (maybe I need a change of hobby emphasis ... more guitar practice and less hacking and slahing??.. :wink: :roll: ) :lol:
This verse looked a bit out of place, but then I am not familiar with the story I was hoping the link would help clarify the reference, because it's a crux or motivation of the story.

John Constantine always saw half breed angels and demons but no one else around him did, he thought he was crazy and was tormented by the visions and sounds to the point he tried to commit suicide, but he was resuscitated.

Some religious views hold that suicide victims are destined for Hell. With this in mind, he tries to cast demons back to Hell to win favor with God so that at the end of his life, God might weigh his "good" deeds more than his "bad" deeds and let him into Heaven.

So the take is this is a normal guy (John Constantine), but one who sees the spirit world

The singer is a regular person trying to figure Constantine out and saying basically, "Yes, I believe there is a spirit world, but I don't want to see it or make it too real in my life".

It just sounds wrong without it. Agreed
****Poof :mrgreen: "The" inserted***

Thanks again :D

James]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-366972 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-366965 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 03:38:15 +0000 But we've come to conclusion It just sounds wrong without it.

Nitpicking aside, very enjoyable. Thanks for the listen!

Peace]]> Sunday Songwriters Group David Hodge https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-366965 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-366954 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:52:32 +0000
This had the distinct whiff of an RPG computer game about it, but I'd never heard of it. So the link was useful. It seems that Constantine was both a movie and a video game, with the usual requirement to slay an endless procession of evil hell-spawned foes. Having played a great many such games over the years (I'm currently dispatching my fair share of 'shades' 'rock wraiths', 'profanes' etc in Dragon Age 2) I did get a smile out of all the references. :) I'm not entirely sure that non gamers would pick it all up, especially as the music is rather upbeat for the subject, but that's for others to say. I enjoyed it in a rather cheerily nostalgic way (maybe I need a change of hobby emphasis ... more guitar practice and less hacking and slahing??.. :wink: :roll: )

Cheers,

Chris]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Chris C https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-366954 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-41342 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:18:05 +0000 http://constantinemovie.warnerbros.com/synopsis.html

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10706257

They say you walk the line
Between this world and the next
You've been to Hell and back
Are you cursed or are you blessed?

Constantine, Constantine
No one's meant to see this mess
Constantine, Constantine
Half-breed angels feed on flesh

They say you crossed the line
When you tried to take your life
Now to save your soul
You chase demons and poltergeists

Constantine, Constantine
Do ghosts dance in the rain?
Constantine, Constantine
Can you ever love again?

Sanctuary, holy ground
Can the lost ever be found?

They say you're disillusioned
Not that's it's a crime
But we've come to the conclusion
We're better deaf, dumb and blind

Constantine, Constantine
Without a prayer without a home
Constantine, Constantine
The cross you bear, you bear alone

Constantine, Constantine
You've seen more than your fair share
Constantine, Constantine
I'll go by faith God hears my prayers]]> Sunday Songwriters Group jamestoffee https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/y9w31-constantine/#post-41342