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Its a cute read.. but like Star Wars dialogue before it.. you can write it but you can't say it. You yourself said you probably couldn't sing it with a straight face.. I'd have to agree. Not knocking your song.. but definately more than a mouthful to try to make a tune out of.

It does remind me of "The Math Song" by the Darkest of the Hillside Thickets. I'd be shocked if anyone here had ever heard that song though. They're a weird little Canadian band that performs songs based primarily on H.P. Lovecraft stories... geek rock at its finest (or not).
It reminded me at first of Aimee Mann's "One" ("One is the loneliest number... etc).

Harry Nilson wrote that song which was originally popularized by Three Dog Night 30 years prior to Aimee Mann's version. I do like hers better though.



-marv]]> Sunday Songwriters Group MarvelousOptimist https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144982 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144846 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:13:05 +0000 If you could do this one as heartfelt and sensitive, that's great! But I don't think I could do it with a straight face. But then again, that's the beauty of this place, 5 people can come up with 5 different takes on the same song.]]> Sunday Songwriters Group scratchmonkey https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144846 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144828 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:44:05 +0000 Sunday Songwriters Group martin-6 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144828 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144809 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:38:16 +0000 Fibonacci was a mathematician named Leonardo Pisano. (Fibonacci was a nickname of sorts) There is a series of numbers known as the fibonacci numbers, and the pattern is that each number is the sum of the two numbers preceding it:

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987...

As you go higher in the sequence, you can choose any two adjacent numbers in the sequence, and divide the larger by the smaller, and you get 1.618034.... That's the golden ratio. The higher you go, the more accurate the result becomes. (if that makes any sense, remember... scotch) What makes this significant, is that it appears all over the place in nature. In the spiral of a nautilus shell, the curvature of a wave as it breaks, the arrangement of seeds in a sunflower, or a pinecone, or petals on flowers, or cauliflower... etc....
Now, you can construct a rectangle with these same dimensions, i.e., widht of 2, length of 3, width of 3, length of 5, width of 5, lenght of 8, width of 8, length of 13, etc... (these are nested rectangles, each one squared, by making the width of the larger the same as the length of the smaller.) Then draw a spiral that arcs through each square ( there's a picture of this on that link, which is much easier to understand), and it gives you that curve, or spiral I mentioned in the nautilus shell. Rectangles with these dimensions were called "golden rectangles" by the greeks. Interestingly, (to me anyways) if you look up the dimensions of the Ark of the Covenant in the Bible, and divide the length by the width, you'll get the golden ratio.
Now, since I'm worried that this has been more confusing than clarifying, here's that link I promised:

http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibnat.html

be sure to scroll down to "Fibonacci rectangles and Shell Spirals" that's where it gets interesting.
so,... that's probably way more than you wanted to know. Anyways, check out the link, then, if you want, rent the movie "Pi, Faith in Chaos" But be forewarned, it's a weird show.
Clever stuff, Scratch, nice amusing take on the assignment.... Thanks Vic, that's what I was going for. :)]]> Sunday Songwriters Group scratchmonkey https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144809 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144800 Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:54:41 +0000
"If there was a number
I could equate to you"..........

or something similar?

OK, I haven't the faintest clue who Fibonacci is, or what the golden ratio is....if you could enlighten me please?

Love the song though, reminds me in a way of that old song about the elements...the one that ends

"These are all the elements we have in stock at Harvard,
There may be many more but they have not yet been discovard...."

Clever stuff, Scratch, nice amusing take on the assignment....

:D :D :D

Vic]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144800 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144720 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:21:49 +0000 Though life is logarithmic,
and without you, cataclysmic,

I love this line, best one in the whole song. Really gives a feeling of the change from order to dispair.

And what, no references to E=MC 2 :D :D

Very different and nice to read.]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Rodders https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144720 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144683 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:55:49 +0000
As far as corney. Love is corney. Life is corney. Nothing wrong with that.

Great job
Geoo]]> Sunday Songwriters Group geoo https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144683 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144674 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:29:32 +0000
1. It is corny. When I was singing it through while I wrote it, it was definitely corny. I don't know if any of you have heard Arlo Guthrie singing (I think) Tom Paxton's song, "I'm changing my name to Chrysler" or not, but that's the voice and tone I had in mind while writing this. And if you haven't, "Alice's restaurant" or "The Motorcycle Song" will give you the same idea.

2. For me description means using words,... That struck me as funny, gjbrake. :D For me, numbers are used to describe things that are too complex for words. All they do, really, is describe things. They break down in their descriptive ability when they're misused, ("you have to give 110%", "on a scale of 1-10, she's an 15", etc...) or, I think, when we try to describe emotion using numbers. Then again, when we try to describe emotion, words often lose their power as well.

Anyways, I'll look those lines over a bit yet, and see if anything else goes there. Maybe the repetition is too much. I was thinking it served to "start-stop" the chorus, like bookends. But perhaps re-phrasing one or the other would be better. We'll see.

Thanks again,]]> Sunday Songwriters Group scratchmonkey https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144674 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144661 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:46:35 +0000
I for ones like this song a lot(and I'm no mathematican either, but I'm lucky(!?) to still be in school... just heard about fibonacci again last week and our maths teacher just started the e-thing.....)
and have to agree with G that it's really cute
I especially liked the lines about "no variable would do"

keeper, definitely.
cheers,
bluenightangel]]> Sunday Songwriters Group straycat. https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144661 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144643 Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:50:42 +0000 Sunday Songwriters Group teleplayer324 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-4-week-6-constant-love/#post-144643