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                        <title>Re: Year 6 Wk 22 When You Shake Hands With The Devil</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Gee Thanks Guys,No Pressure At  All ! I&#039;ll try to see what I do before Sunday.The music for this is still in flux mode right now. I&#039;m workingon the JLH style but haven&#039;t totally given up on ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Gee Thanks Guys,<br><br>No Pressure At  All ! I'll try to see what I do before Sunday.<br>The music for this is still in flux mode right now. I'm working<br>on the JLH style but haven't totally given up on Mr. Johnson yet.<br><br>If anybody wants to play with it and submit it for the SCG assignment feel free.<br><br>I really appreciate all the suggestions!<br><br>They truly helped make this a  better song and that is what SSG is all about.<br><br>John]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Year 6 Wk 22 When You Shake Hands With The Devil</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[John I really enjoyed reading this and how the comments from others played their part on the edit ...I am very keen and eager to listen how this is transported into music , I am hearing a lo...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[John <br><br>I really enjoyed reading this and how the comments from others played their part on the edit ...<br><br>I am very keen and eager to listen how this is transported into music , I am hearing a lot of sound effects like hissing ....<br><br>Just my weird mind ...<br><br>Nice one John<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Trev.. :wink:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Latest version is great, John.  It flows much better.  Amazing what just a few little tweaks would do, eh?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Latest version is great, John.  It flows much better.  Amazing what just a few little tweaks would do, eh?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Year 6 Wk 22 When You Shake Hands With The Devil</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Looks done, dusted, polished and finished to me. Waiting for the MP3.*taps foot impatiently**taps foot impatiently**taps foot impatiently**taps foot impatiently* :D  :D  :D Vic]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Looks done, dusted, polished and finished to me. Waiting for the MP3.<br><br><br>*taps foot impatiently*<br><br><br>*taps foot impatiently*<br><br><br>*taps foot impatiently*<br><br><br>*taps foot impatiently*<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I like it too.  Assignment completed?When can we expect to hear the mp3?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I like it too.  <br>Assignment completed?<br>When can we expect to hear the mp3?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It reads great.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It reads great.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Year 6 Wk 22 When You Shake Hands With The Devil</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/year-6-wk-22-when-you-shake-hands-with-the-devil/#post-287222</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well It&#039;s Later,imho, the first verse is so great that the second one seems a little weak. not that it is weak it&#039;s just that it follows somethiing real strong. the Boss man verse is somewhe...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well It's Later,<br>imho, the first verse is so great that the second one seems a little weak. not that it is weak it's just that it follows somethiing real strong. the Boss man verse is somewhere in between. summary: work on the second verse!

Good point maybe if I work it into a more traditional verse/chorus structure.<br>I noticed a strange thing with this song, namely these two lines....<br><br>"When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Better keep your other hand on your soul"<br> "Better keep one hand on your soul."<br><br>"So he keeps on beating yours into the ground" seemed one or two syllables too many, depending on phrasing - I tried "He keeps tryin' to beat yours into the ground" which seemed to flow a little smoother.<br><br>"Get a shiver up and down your spine" seemed to be easier to sing as "Get the shivers down your spine"....<br><br>Oh, one little question - are you thinking same rhythm/melody for the verses and choruses (ie all the way through) or one rhythm/melody for the verses, and another for the choruses? The latter way seemed to work better for me...

Lots of good points and I tried to address them all in the rewrite. Yes it would be the same all the way though.<br>how about.......<br><br>when you shake hands with the devil<br>you loose your grip on your own soul<br><br>?<br><br>i really like this tune. but I grew up on blues, so any crossroads-style doomsday devil song is likely to appeal to my predilections.

Sorry I went with Vic's suggestion but it's funny you mention "Crossroads" because this started with a <br>Robert Johnson groove but John Lee worked a little better or maybe not.<br>
Had an idea about the forst verse. I thought the line after King of the World was a little awkward. How about replacing it with something like "... then tear your world apart"- adds a touch of irony there.<br><br>Also the line in the second verse after the boss man having no self respect. Same concern but I can't think of a fix offhand.


Maybe something like:<br><br>The Devil's like the Boss man<br>he ain't got no respect<br>always beats he you to the ground<br>with his foot up on your neck<br>the devil's like the boss man<br>he ain't got no respect

Definitely some food for thought that I digested during rewrite.<br>Another verse?<br>Maybe something like the devil's in the next drink?

You asked for it. I loved the "next drink angle".<br><br><br><br>When You Shake Hands With The Devil (Edit)<br><br>The Devil's like that woman<br>Who will steal then break your heart<br>Treat you like the King of the World<br>Then tear that world apart<br>The Devil's like that woman<br>Who will steal then break your heart<br><br>When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Your blood runs bitter cold<br>Get a shiver down your spine<br>As you try to break his hold<br>When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Better keep one hand on your soul<br><br>The Devil's like that Boss Man<br>All he does is keep you down<br>He don't give you no respect<br>Keeps beating you to the ground<br>The Devil's like that Boss Man<br>All he does is keep you down<br><br>When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Your blood runs bitter cold<br>Get a shiver down your spine<br>As you try to break his hold<br>When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Better keep one hand on your soul<br><br>The Devil's like that next drink<br>When you swore you had your last<br>You'll only find more sorrow<br>In the bottom of the glass<br>The Devil's like that next drink<br>When you swore you had your last<br><br>When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Your blood runs bitter cold<br>Get a shiver down your spine<br>As you try to break his hold<br>When you shake hands with the Devil<br>Better keep one hand on your soul<br><br><br>Thank You All <br><br>John]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Wow, Thanks everybody I love all the suggestions.I guess I have quite a bit to think about so I will get back to you all later.John]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Wow, <br>Thanks everybody I love all the suggestions.<br><br>I guess I have quite a bit to think about so I will get back <br>to you all later.<br><br>John]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I like the Boss man, but does he TRY to keep you down or does he actually do it:Maybe something like:The Devil&#039;s like the Boss manhe ain&#039;t got no respectalways beats he you to the groundwith...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I like the Boss man, but does he TRY to keep you down or does he actually do it:<br><br>Maybe something like:<br><br>The Devil's like the Boss man<br>he ain't got no respect<br>always beats he you to the ground<br>with his foot up on your neck<br>the devil's like the boss man<br>he ain't got no respect]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Another verse?Maybe something like the devil&#039;s in the next drink?The devil&#039;s like the next drinkYou drink to drown your sorrow But you&#039;re just swallowing another problemAnd your soul will be...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Another verse?<br>Maybe something like the devil's in the next drink?<br><br>The devil's like the next drink<br>You drink to drown your sorrow <br>But you're just swallowing another problem<br>And your soul will be gasping for air<br>When you drink to hide from your fate<br>The Devil will buy the next round<br><br>No rhyme but the thought is there.<br>Making it rhyme is your job.]]></content:encoded>
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