Tricky chords and possible barrings?

I do them both the same way - fingers X2134X or alternatively X2133X (half barre with 3rd finger)
I tend to use the first fingering for fingerstyle and the second for strumming.
An advantage of the second fingering is that your 3rd finger is also fretting the first string on a good note (the fifth of those chords) with fingers X21333
So if you're strumming them as an accompaniment, hitting that first string note is fine.

Hey Clazon,
Well, I'm not sure....
Looks like 9th chords to me
Very jazz/bluesy - See T-Bone Walker.

The 10/9 one I would hold with My (sorry, middle) finger on the 10th fret, A string;

My my index finger on the 9th fret, D string;

And my ring finger sorta in a partial bar on the higher strings, 10th fret.

If you throw in the high E on the 10th fret, you're just adding the 5th I believe to that.
It's your choice to include that or not.

Like I said - look up some T-Bone Walker to get a cool 9th chord blues feel.

Hope I'm right about these, :shock:

Ken

I think you indicated one of my bad habits, Fretsource.

Sometimes I use an extra finger instead of barre when picking. But surely this just highlights the fact that my barre doesn't hold the notes down strongly enough?

The action on my cheap tele copy is extremely high though.

I think you indicated one of my bad habits, Fretsource.

Sometimes I use an extra finger instead of barre when picking. But surely this just highlights the fact that my barre doesn't hold the notes down strongly enough?

The action on my cheap tele copy is extremely high though.

Using an extra finger there is in no way a bad habit.
In your chord X 10 9 10 10 X (which is G9) You can slide up your pinky to get the great "Purple haze" Augmented ninth chord X 10 9 10 11 X

Doing the same on the the other chord, though (which is E minor 9) just changes it to E minor 7 (X7578X)

Fretsource -
The Purple haze chord = G7#9 ????

Ken

E7#9

aka The Hendrix chord

aka The H chord

Clazon -
I think the x 10 9 10 11 x fingering is G7#9

and x 7 6 7 8 x is the E7#9 - which I do believe is the chord for the 'popular' version of Purple Haze.

I could be mistaken - anyone????

Ken

Ha. I think everyone's gettign a bit confused.

What you just said is correct. Fretsource (I think) merely meant that a ?7#9 chord is the one best known in Purple Haze (aka the Hendrix chord etc.) where in the song it happens to be an E7#9.

Fretsource mentioned a G7#9 because I happened to use a type of G as an an example (x-10-9-10-10-x).

Ha. I think everyone's gettign a bit confused.

What you just said is correct. Fretsource (I think) merely meant that a ?7#9 chord is the one best known in Purple Haze (aka the Hendrix chord etc.) where in the song it happens to be an E7#9.

Fretsource mentioned a G7#9 because I happened to use a type of G as an an example (x-10-9-10-10-x).

Confusing people is my speciality :lol:

Sorry, folks - As Clazon said, I just meant the chord TYPE, not necessarily on G. It's a great chord - my favourite example of it is in Dark side of the Moon, where it's a B9+ (or B7 #9 if you prefer). It ends every verse on "Breathe". They liked that chord so much they used it again (this time on D) on Shine on you crazy Diamond just before the singing starts. "Remember when you were young..."

Yea, I knew that that was what you were saying - I just didn't wan't anyone else to be confused which lead to
Confusion. :shock:

I added some myself by having my ring finger in 2 places to hold the chord - I have corrected that.
I think WE at least know what each other are talking about.... :D

Ken

I find it a lot easier to play that 9th shape as a five string chord...(for example) x 10 9 10 10 10...you just need your third finger to assume a reverse bend at the first knuckle.....fairly easy to do.
This is then a true "movable 9th" anywhere on the neck, no worry about hitting the high E by mistake, and your pinky is still free for the # note.
BTW...the shape with five strings is also part of the "Blues You Can Use" instructions. 8)

Ah.

Which lesson?

I have both books! :D

Clazon...first book, Lesson 7....the IV9 and V9 position.
Then the 7#9 explanation is in Lesson 8.

BTW...although John Ganapes does mention it as being difficult, some players don't find it all that hard to play the high E string in that "I9" position, either, it's just what one gets used to.
Example; for a "I9 Ganapes position" for A9, rather than his x 4 5 4 5 x , I prefer to play x 4 5 4 5 5.
My pinky "barres" the first and second strings with my first knuckle joint slightly "reversed".

Besides moving from I to IV to V to 1 to V to IV to I etc, it is very good practise for fingering these chords to switch back and forth between them and your "standard" 4-note "dim7" chords.
Example : move back and forth from from Gdim7[ x x 2 3 2 3] to G9 [ x 2 3 2 3 x] or [x 2 3 2 3 3]