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08/02/2004 1:37 am
A buddy of mine was running thru a song he wrote, when he played this chord:
202100 (F#-A-B-G#-B-E)
How would you name that chord? The only thing I could think of is Eadd2add4. Anyone have anything else more succinct? Or comments on how to name 5 note chords?
--Steve
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08/02/2004 3:02 am
That should be
F# A E G# B E
no?
Anyway, a lot of what you call a chord depends on the context, in other words, the progression it's in. What comes before and after.
My first instinct (which is often wrong!) is to think of the bass note as the root. This would make this F#m11.
But, for instance, if you were playing an Amaj9 (X02100) and then followed it with a descending bass line, going from Amaj9 to Amaj9/G# (402100) and then played this chord, you could call it Amaj9/F#
A lot of people get nit-picky over this sort of thing, but I think you just need to take it in context.
Hope this helps.
Peace
Topic starter
08/02/2004 3:56 am
Yeah, you're right about the E (not B).
It comes from an E-major, and then after this chord, he goes to an Asus2, IIRC. There are D majors and a G major (I think), so I would put the key at A major. The A-D-E fit the A major key, and the G is only a one note half step off a G#dim, so I think it is A major.
On a pseudo-separate topic, it seems pretty common to use the flat 7th major chord instead of the 7th diminished chord. Whenever I here, it seems to sound ok, even tho it is a bit dissonant. Any thoughts on this??
thanks.
--Steve
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D~~n the man, save the Empire!
Topic starter
08/02/2004 6:57 am
Okay, on a third tangent, how about naming this chord:
X3133X - C-Eb-Bb-D
I've seen John Mayer use that chord form all over the neck, and I'm trying to figure out what it is...
Cmin7add9(no5)?
Ebmaj7add6(no3)??
The other two possible roots require either a sharp 3rd (Bb) or flat 2nd,6th,7th (D). Could this be chord with its root missing?
Thanks again (and ahead of time).
--Steve
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D~~n the man, save the Empire!
08/02/2004 9:14 am
Okay, on a third tangent, how about naming this chord:
X3133X - C-Eb-Bb-D
I've seen John Mayer use that chord form all over the neck, and I'm trying to figure out what it is...
Cmin7add9(no5)?
Yes, but it's more commonly called Cmin9.
08/02/2004 1:57 pm
Yes, but it's more commonly called Cmin9
Argus is right about this, it's usually thought of as Cm9. You'll find that, as chords get more complicated, a guitarist (especially a jazz guitarist) will drop out certain notes. In the case of some chords where there's more than six notes, that makes perfect sense, no? Usually the fifth is the first one to get the heave-ho.
Hope this helps.
Peace