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31/01/2009 7:01 pm
Hey im just starting to finally get into learning scales and solos, been working with the Em scales and looking for some good solos to learn and practice with in Em, any suggestions?
03/02/2009 12:09 pm
Take any solo you like in any minor-key song, transpose the song to Em, record the chord progression, play it back, and, voila!...SOLO! :roll:
03/02/2009 3:48 pm
Or just knock up a 12-bar chord progression in E and noodle.
A :-)
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03/02/2009 9:27 pm
jimi hendrix "hey joe" "purple haze" are in em, but he tunes his guitar down a half step so it's actually in e flat minor.
can't think of any off the top of my head.
Topic starter
04/02/2009 5:55 pm
Thanks for the ideas, the main thing I am trying to work on is coming up with ideas for riffs and licks and stuff, whenever I just improv over a backing track nothing really sounds good and im kind of stuck with the idea of play scale runs up or down and nothing really that melodic. any other tips would be great.
05/02/2009 2:18 am
don't play straight scales. play them out of order, play with the time, play two notes at once. make shapes with the notes you play. make hills, go up and down. make triangles, squares, make stairs, make it sound like a man falling down, like someone crying. sing a melody and play it. play with the time. try to play everything as groups of 3, or 6, or whatever. play only 8th notes on the beat, then play anything but 8th notes on the beat. come in between the beats and try to catch up. get ahead of the music. start somewhere at random and try to make it into something. make a mistake and recover. play every melody you know, from mary had a little lamb to ...
05/02/2009 1:42 pm
Well, I used to play scales up and down for a long time too, until I discovered triplets. You actually want to play your scales in triplets, instead of the boring up and down stuff,
Pent A
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-----------5----------5--7---------5--7----------7------------------------------
---5--8-----------8------------------------------------------------------------
Take the 2nd note in each group and start the next group with it...
all the way up and back down, tedious at first but thats guitar!
Pat
11/02/2009 3:52 pm
Just a bit of advice:
I wouldn't listen to anyone who tells you to learn scales in certain keys. When learning scales people will often say "you should now learn this in every key".
...Now, correct me if I'm missing something here, but this seems absurd and unneccessarily time consuming to me. If you start by learning the notes on the low E, then learn say A major, you don't then need to "learn" the scale in other keys - you just shift the damn thing up or down to the respective note! Then, for more flexibility, you learn all the notes on the 5th string and from there etc etc.
Its the "learning in every key" I just don't get. Once you know a scale in one key, you automatically know it in every key. Where on Earth did this hugely counter-productive method of teaching come from!?
Like I said, please so correct me if I'm missing someone obvious here.
11/02/2009 4:00 pm
Simon,
I think you are correct the only value of doing that I think is that even though it's just a position change the fret distances change so the fingering is "different" in different parts of the neck, but from a pure sense of learning them you're right once you know one you know them all.
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11/02/2009 8:54 pm
A friend once suggested playing scales with my eyes shut. Sounds easy, and isn't.
But I like to practice this way- it makes it about hearing, not seeing shapes.
Hard though.
Ande
11/02/2009 10:19 pm
Once you know a scale in one key, you automatically know it in every key.
Well, it all depends. I think you're right in that once you have a scale pattern under your fingers, you'll know that scale pattern whether it's C major, A major or Eb major. However, I definitely think if you want to know how to play up and down the entire guitar neck in any key, not just in one perticular position, then it's a good idea to play in different keys using different patterns.
Steve-0
13/02/2009 10:58 pm
Just a bit of advice:
I wouldn't listen to anyone who tells you to learn scales in certain keys. When learning scales people will often say "you should now learn this in every key
Well I guess that would be a waste of time, you probably want to gear your "scale Practice" for what your style of Music calls for...Blues for instance is played by most artists in the Key of Em or Ebm(drop half step). Classic Rock you'll see it in the key of Am quite often