A long sample from my new Eleven Rack

Sure, I can mic it coming out of the PA. The only thing I'd need to be careful of is feedback. I'll have to give it some thought on how to do. If I mic in, it becomes part of the signal. I did remove it from my headphones signal. Perhaps I can expand on that. I wonder if there's a way do elminate it from a certain I/O.

I'm sure the sounds are in there with some tweeking. I "V" my EQ some what but not radically.

Ramble Alert!
I was watching "That Metal Show" and they had Ace Frehley on. Gilby Clark was the guest guitar player and they asked Ace if the tone sounded familiar. Gilby said he had read that Ace's Marshall settings were everything at 5 so that is what he has always used. I didn't know that and it would not have mattered if I did even though I'm a big fan of Ace. My EQ from bass to mid to treble tends to look like 6 4 7 so close. (Oh yeah, my amps go to 12 :lol: so 1 oclock, 11 oclock and 2 oclock) Of course gain has to be as high as I can get without feedback and or the point where I notice no difference in the sustain yet before the sound starts to get fizzy. Just before that. I need to keep the definition. For my EQ I start at 5 and twist to get the sweet spot on each knob where the harmonics and sustain are optimized.
So ends TR"s clinic on dirty amp settings :lol:

Thanks for listening and offering your thoughts.

I had a pm pretty much sharing your opinion on the first bit of distortion. I went back and took a quick look under .................................................................................................................. Everything else is my Squre Tele.
There is the problem! Use a Les Paul! :mrgreen: Grab your Les Paul, find a nice hot rodded Marshall model, use your brige pickup with everything on the guitar at 10. Crank the gain on the amp model. Start with the EQ at 5 and tweek from there. This will make the metal!

But I like my tele! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Just a reminder that these are total, unaltered stock patches, or "Rigs", as they call them. No adjustments other than volume. All the standard adjustments could have been made by someone who knows how. For the hard rocking stuff, alas, that's not me.

This thing has so many way to adjust. It's even got some well thought out functionality for speaker break-up that is seperate from distortion, overdrive or gain. It is affected by it, but only one of a few parameters. Volume and Tone knobs being cranked is one thing that will affect it. so are different levels or settings in any of the amp or pedal sims. It's even affected a little bit by total rack output. If you like your tone and speaker breakup, but want higher volume, you need to make those adjust post 11R or do offsetting adjustments from within. Raise the output, but dial back the amp sim's volume, for example, and you remain pretty true to what you had decided on and liked. Like anything with many ways to alter tone, you gotta get a feel for it. I've never been that good at dialing in hard rock settings.

That tone that offended most of who listened to it did have the tone scooped, fwiw. I didn't do it. I'll take TR's method and apply it from beginning to end on a fresh rig. I hate starting with an apple to try to end up with a banana. Give me a black slate.

At any rate, it's all pretty fun. I did a plug-in this weekend in PT-10 and tried it out on that offensive metallica tone. it made one heck of a difference. Astonishing. it was just a stock setting in a 7-band EQ. I've never had any stock setting of anything sound so good. They always sound like crud to me. My only problem with this one was that I have no idea if theheavy rockers would like it or not. I'm sort of running blind on that end. Un trained ear, perhaps.