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08/07/2004 8:08 pm
Anyone heard about these things:
http://www.webervst.com/mass.html
I just stumbled on to it via a guy on Ebay who uses them and is selling it with his amp. They seem much cheaper than soaks/brakes.
"Nothing...can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts."
08/07/2004 8:50 pm
-=tension & release=-
Topic starter
08/07/2004 9:29 pm
Thanks for the quick response Greg. Nice review. Sounds like this is a serious product. Maybe Joe will drop by and give us some pro/cons.
"Nothing...can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts."
08/07/2004 9:36 pm
Dennis
Yeah, Joe is the guy who knows attenuators. I considered the 50W 8Ohm Load Dump for my HRD before. I think that would work well and it's only $75. I'm sure Joe will know about these as well. As soon as I get some extra cash, I'm gonna try one. it is at the bottom of this page.
Joe- What is the big difference between the MASS and the Load Dump?
If you know something better than Rock and Roll, I'd like to hear it - Jerry Lee Lewis
10/07/2004 10:24 am
Those particular piece's of equipment I don't have hands on usage of. I have studied up on them and have considered getting one to see how creative I can get with it. as with anything you hook up between your amp and speaker some precautions need to be looked for. Attenuators/dummy loads can get hot, so can the amp, and connection speaker wire. Other than that I haven't had a problem, well almost...lol Some of my first experiments or projects didn't fair to well.
The weber mass could do for a web-page update I would say. They should at least put some spec's or technical information about their product. Then I could draw a better incite into it before I hooked it up. I do like the idea of being able to add different options. the thing to do really would be get one that has all the options and twice the power level your going to be using it on. That way you could use it on other amps without having to by another one.
How I use them is the power amp speaker out to the attenuator and then onto the speakers, then I also run the line out to a (you guessed it) an equalizer into another power amp. this gives me the saturated power from the first amp, allowing me to amplify that. Thats were I get my volume from should I need it. The first amp being attenuated or -dB's the volume is only about headphone volume -32db. I also have attenuators on the second amp, but the attenuation isn't as much, that way I can run that amp a little harder, and I could also use the line out from the second amps attenuators to go into another amp. Never ending.
Which also by now I have more speakers connected moving more air. Even though for most perhaps I don't have the second amp really any louder the the first, I turn it up just enough or a little more than the first amp. Being there are many speakers it kind of creates the illusion of being loud. Essentially I have lots of power at low volume and sound coming from everywhere.
I hope this helped, being sometimes I can't find the words so folks can understand what I'm talking about.
joe
05/12/2004 6:03 pm
I used to have a MASS, and used it with my 30 watt tube Peavey Delta Blues. It does indeed do a nice job of letting you get cranked power tube distortion without blowing your head off.
However, I sold both the MASS and the Peavey Delta blue later for a Zvex Nano Head. The Nano is pure, unbridled cranked tone... which is better than cranked tone using an attentuator. The Nano is only 1/2 watt, so 'fully cranked' is loud, but not ridiculous.
-- Joe