Digitech RP200A question

I have an RP 80 and I don't like the drums. Very 'midi' like? Not like drums at all.

You may be disappointed if it drums you are interested in from the modeler.

Maybe someone can recommend a better product with drums in mind.

Trade in your Vox for a G-DEC?? Or get one, they run round $260. street price. I have one and its a blast. I can spend over an hour on just one patch.

I have the RP200A and I think the drums sound great through my surround sound. Easy to control and play along to.

The effects themselves, as with most multi-effects, don't compare to a one up stomp box.

I've never messed with the jam-a-long feature, sorry.

I've used an RP50 for drum on my backing tracks, I ran the drums through an equalizer which really brought then to life. Most of the time I use tracks that are set over from the studio or I use a keyboard with a built in drum module.Using a Eq on the drums really brings them around.

Joe

This sounds great then. I was missing on on the machines potential.

I bought a Vox Tonemaster and gave the RP-80 to my girlfriends son with a Behringer guitar starter set that he is taking to like a fish to water.........so I will put a fish n chips EQ in his stocking for xmas. By then he will be into the modeler more and looking for drums. 8)

You can't run an aux-in from the modeler into the Vox, since the amp model will be put over the backing/drums. You'll need an amp with a aux-in, which the vox doesn't have. I definitely won't suggest the G-dec as the sound quality of the Vox is, IMHO, miles beyond that of the Fender.

You could get a miniscule mixer board and put both the backings/drums and the Vox into it. either mic the Vox or use the line-out (you might want to look into a speaker sim). Adjust the volume of both signals and hook it up to your stereo. For drums you might be better of with a drumcomputer. The RP drums are nice, but if it's all you're after you'll be paying a lot for it.

Another option is getting a Tonelab and putting the backing into the Tonelab's aux-in. Then hook the tonelab into your HiFi set. A tad more expensive then the RP200 btu sounds infinitely better. Remember that the RP is really almost vintage in digital-land. Still need a drumcomputer with it though...

Trade in your Vox for a G-DEC?? Or get one, they run round $260. street price. I have one and its a blast. I can spend over an hour on just one patch.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I really like my VOX. I don't think I really want to go for another amp right now.

You can't run an aux-in from the modeler into the Vox, since the amp model will be put over the backing/drums.
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You could get a miniscule mixer board and put both the backings/drums and the Vox into it.
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Another option is getting a Tonelab and putting the backing into the Tonelab's aux-in. ..

Arjen, You've really gone way over my head now (Not that it's hard to do :-)) What I was thinking about is something very simple:

|-------------|
Guitar --->|RP200 |
| |-------->VOX
MP3 --->|(jam inp) |
player |-------------|

- I would continue to use the VOX for the amp modeling
- I would either use the drums for practice from the RP200, or my MP3 player for Jam-along songs, but not both at the same time

Does this picture make sense? Maybe you were thinking I want to do something more sophisticated?

(And in this case, my concern is whether I have any control over the relative volume of the drums or the jam-along-input wrt to the guitar volume? If not, then it may not be very usable; not that I want very fine control, but I would want to do things like make sure the guitar is louder than the drums, and the song is heard over the guitar if using the jam-along input)

In addition, as a bonus, I could:
a) Use the tuner in the RP200
b) Experiment with the effects in the RP200
c) Use the RP200 as a portable "practice-amp" with headphones. Now I have to be at the vox to plug in the head-phones, the RP200 would be more portable.

And, if I can get a used one for around $80 or so on e-bay, not too bad..

However, from various reviews here, it sounds like the RP200A does many things, but none too well.

- Modeling is better in the the VOX or the V-AMP 2
- Effects are better in zoom multi-effect pedals
- Drums are better in dedicated drum machines

etc.

So, I am still "Lost and confused".

Well, I was looking around on ebay, and implusively bid on a Zoom 707, and won it for $65 including shipping/insurance. It has a drum machine, does not have the jam-along input and I figure at that price, I will get something I can experiment with for a while..

If I don't use the amp models there, do I need to get an equalizer pedal to go in front of it before the VOX? As you can probably tell, I've been reading old threads in this forum :-)

(PS. And I thought I was temporarily in remission from G.A.S.. :roll: )

Look, an amp has different stages. To keep it simple, lets assume there are two: a pre-amp which shapes the sound and a poweramp which makes it audible. If you send a MP3/CD input into the Vox input the pre-amp would modify the sound. So you'd get an distorted/reverb song, or something else, depeding on yoru settings. Using the jam input of a MFX is only usefull if you amplify it relatively neutral. For example, connect the MFX-unit to a Hi-Fi set to amplify both the guitar and jamtrack.

And have fun with the 707. :D

If you send a MP3/CD input into the Vox input the pre-amp would modify the sound.

And have fun with the 707. :D

Ah, now I got it. Thanks!! I guess that's why only the simple practice amps have the jam-along input.

And I am waiting anxiously for the 707 to arrive .. should be here by monday :-)

yeah, a jam along input would basically only work with a neutral poweramp, so tube amps (for guitar!) generally won't have one. And if you're playing with a 100W amp it seems kinda logic to assume your band has a PA system, which is perfect for amplifying. Besides, who jams along to a cd on a stage through a huge stack anyway? :D