Im writing this with the risk to get so many different answers that i cant make up my mind anyhow :)
But i take the risk.(im playing blues, soul and rock)
I got a Hughes and Kettner Silver Line transistor amplifier that i like a lot.(50W i think)
The problem is it needs some power to sound as i like.
Playing in a 9 people band in a small town, small stages.
Crowded is the word. Were often standing tight together on stage.
And theres allways somebody in the band complaining about my high volume.
I borrowed a JJ-labs 110cv from a friend, even nicer sound then my Hughes.
But the same problem on lower volume.
I need a little hard working amp that isnt loud. Normaly i dislike tube amps
because the ones i tried misses the brightness i like. They sound like someone has thrown a
thick carpet over the amp. And not much happens when you turn the nobs.
Does anyone have a suggestion? tube or transistor.
It has to be powerful enough so i can hear it myself without a monitor.
I have studied Pevey Valve King 8 on the net.(yes i know, a tube amp) Sounds nice on youtube.
Could that be something ?
Is it powerful enough?
P.S: i dont like gadgets on the floor (pedals)
Have you tried a modelling amp?
Something like this?
If it can do the tone you want, then you should be able to get that tone at any loudness you need. (then the only debate is if "loud enough" for you is "too loud" for the rest of the band. :roll:
I wrapped a newspaper ’round my head
So I looked like I was deep
Theres no need for debate. If i get an amp that works as i wish, i just pull out my ear plugs and give it to my nearest neighbour on stage :P The sheapest way to get around this problem would be to buy ear plugs for the rest of the band :lol:
As i wrote, i live in a little town. We have just one, but a really nice music shop.
The range of amps in the shop is small. I tried a Fender Champ XD and the shop owner said - "you can play as loud as you like". I started out fiddling a little with the knobs and after a short time i was just ready to go :twisted: when this old lady and her grandchild entered this small shop. She was going to by the grandchild an electric guitar, and i could not destroy this kids opportunity to get an axe for free. So i will go back and borrow the amp the next time the band is practiseing.
Do you have any experience with the Fender Champ XD ?
I do, but I don't play at high volumes, nor do I play live anywhere. I bought mine when they first came out and untried. I figured that if I didn't like it, I could return it within three days.
I liked it only OK. I put an EQ in front of it and that made it sound better. I switched speakers in it - cheap and easy to do yourself - and love it now. Will that one need a speaker? I don't know. Mine was very early in production. Perhaps they did a quiet switch in production or something. I heard a before and after on youtube or the Fender Forum recently and could not tell the difference.
It's current restng place is in the office and serves as the amp for my Boss GT-10 Multi-Effects Processor. The tube emulations really benefit from the tubes in the amp it's getting played in to.
Is it loud enough? I played to the squirrells, doggies, wife, trees and 6 lane highway behind my house one day and as far away from my amp as I could, complete with ear plugs. I think I was dialing it up to between 3 and 4. My wife was 50 feet away in her hammock with the highway buzzing in her other ear. She ways worried that the neighbors would complain. They were not home, though, so no issues. She said that it sounded good.
The amp has no mid tone setting. I probably would not have had to get a speaker (eminence Rajin' Cajin' approx $65 U.S.) if it did. They would have to modify the logo to make room for another knob. Jerks.
There are also 16 "voicings" available, which is it's own modeling effort. While not new to modeling, they are not world class leaders. One thing I despise is not computer GUI to store settings (or patches). You'd need to remember or write down each setting for each song if you changed alot. Chear-sheat city. worth it, though. Search You tube for samples of people playing various things on various settings. It'll give you a fairly representative idea of what it can do. One useful one in particular is #16. It's an acoustiv Guitar processor. It's not an emulator. You can plug in an acoustic and get decent tone. There also is a Gain knob and a Volume knob for the 16 voices. It's the classic dial-a-tone
The only thing I'm unsure of is whether or not it can cut through the mix to be heard without blasting band members. Do you guys have a sound man/lady? Probably a good thing with a 9 piece.
Lastly, it's got one knob that covers a hadful of effects, including some effects used in tandem or at the same time. Very simple operation. Twist knob to desired effect and twisted effect level knob to desired level. Done. It's certainly not a strength of the unit, but they do come in handy. Right now I am running that GT-10 through it, so no need for them.
In closing, we have one other member with one. Slejhammer. He runs a line directly from behind the amp to his computer for recording instead of mic'ing it up. sounds fantastic. On a side note and unrelated to how he records with it, he'spt changed the speaker and it sounds just fine.
So anyhow, that's my take on the XD.
Roy
"I wonder if a composer ever intentionally composed a piece that was physically impossible to play and stuck it away to be found years later after his death, knowing it would forever drive perfectionist musicians crazy." - George Carlin
Thanks for all advise i got from you all!
I went to the shop before closing time on Saturday and borrowed the Fender Super Champ XD for testing.
I fell in love directly. So now its mine :D :note1: :note2:
So here comes two new questions from a "tube beginner".
How often is the tubes supposed to be replaced ?
Can i hear when they are worn out?
That is a super question. I've never thought to ask. My bigger tube amp is 3 years old now, and I was starting to wonder myself.
Congrats on getting the new amp, btw. Have fun! 8)
Roy
"I wonder if a composer ever intentionally composed a piece that was physically impossible to play and stuck it away to be found years later after his death, knowing it would forever drive perfectionist musicians crazy." - George Carlin
So here comes two new questions from a "tube beginner".
(1)How often is the tubes supposed to be replaced ?
(2)Can i hear when they are worn out?
1) When they're worn out - which depends on how hard you push the amp. On my 120 watt Peavey Duel 212 (a.k.a "Ampzilla") that rarely gets turned up as far as 3 (out of 10) on the rare occasion I'm in a venue big enough to use it, I've replaced the tubes once in the 17 years i've had it. That was after 15 years.
My 15 watt Blues Jr has been pushed hard at least once week since I got it two years ago. I'll normally have the tubes cooking for three or four hours at a time. I'm starting to hear signs that they're going to need changing soon. Which brings us to . . .
2) Yeah . . . you'll hear it.
Playing guitar and never playing for others is like studying medicine and never working in a clinic.
Moon is right and you will hear it but the only thing I would add is that you have to know what you are hearing. If that doesn't make sense I'll try to explain.
I have a Fender Deluxe that I have had for about 5 years and although I didn't push it hard often I started noticing that I never really got the sound I wanted.
I messed around with different pedals/settings and never got the sound I was looking for.
I finally ended up changing the tubes and it made a big difference but it wasn't that obvious that the tubes were the problem at first.
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