News or the same old same old

Every time I see an update to this thread, I break out the popcorn. I feel for all the troubles you've been having because I've been having similar troubles. I think we may have finally found our 2nd guitarist/vocalist this past week. He played well, sang great and seemed like a nice enough guy. He said he wants to come back, so I guess we didn't scare him off yet.

This post will probably last as long as I can still hang in there without losing my mind. I'm not even sure how this all went down other than the drummer was a big part of it.

The new guy is very good and he fits in well so that's not a problem it's just dropping the other guy out of the blue.

I feel we just keep going back to start every month or so.

At this pace all we will have is 25 or so songs with a million different guitar players but not quite enough to get out there and play.

Latest update. we have our first mini gig at a local bar in March. We are going to play a 1 hr set. So we finally have something to shoot for. I think we have plenty of material now as it is so that shouldn't be a big problem the bigger problem is......wait for it...the drummer wants to kick me out! This is so stupid it's funny.

I can't get into the whole background of the situation just suffice it to say the drummer and his girlfriend Yoko are not happy with me. The name Yoko should say alot about the situation.

Anywya teh drummer was the one that set us up for this gig which is no big deal but it's cool that we hae a date. So last night I get all these emails about this nonsense on Facebook blah blah. I check it out and the drummer created some group for the band I guess posted some pictures of us (without asking me) and also had a name for the band (which is the problem)

A few weeks ago he calls me up telling me he has a name for the band, (of course I reminded him there are 4 other people that didn't have any say in it) but let him tell me what he had.....the name he came up with or I should say Yoko came up with is......DisturbedToBrotherhood....OK I'm sorry but that name is lame, it's not grammatically correct and it doesn't even fit the kind of band we are.

So he didn't like my comments but didn't discuss for a few weeks. he eventually ran it by the guys and no one likes it but we didn't have serious discussions about it cuz it wasn't that important at the time.

So I removed myself from his Facebook group and he threw a hissy fit and told me I guess I was out and I wasn't a team player etc. Then he told me he was going to quit.

God this can't get any better.

Run. Run as fast as you can. Get your amp, and run some more.

Dude, the last thing you need is drama. Time for something for Chris. Let Yoko, the PW'd drummer, his 'lil guitar friend and the prima-dona go. I forget the bass player's story in all of this, but if he isn't good for you, he's bad for you at this point.

I very much apoligize for being so abrupt. This is just some of the most ridiculous stuff I've read in a long time.....and that includes things I normally write.

Roy it's so stupid it's funny to me. I hear what you are saying though and you are right but I am tired of starting from square one all the time.

The biggest problem I have besides the name is with Yoko, I know the drummer better than these other guys and I see and hear what goes on between him and Yoko and I know she is in his ear giving him all these "suggestions" for the band.

That's why I am so adamant about not going with that name, mostly because I want to shoot it down so she understands we aren't feeling her help. I don't want to be mean and really tell her to her face she needs to butt out and mind her own business and I thought this may be the way but he's being a little uncooperative.

We'll see what happens I talked to him earlier.

Not sure who you meant by the prima dona I think that's our original guy who has like 3 projects going on and we aren't number 1, the drummer already booted him for his buddy. I'd still like to play with him, he's a bit more professional than the rest of us and he's been doing this a long time. The new guy who is his buddy is cool I like him and he plays very well but since he's the new guy and the drummer's buddy he is all onboard with everything he says.

Both the singer and bass player are OK they are kind of in the midle of this and I havent talked to them about it but I know from the past they weren't down with the name either but they also are blind to the way Yoko is creeping in here.

Cnev, what is your day to day relationship with the drummer like?

Do you generally get on well but periodically clash over certain things due to differences in opinion (like me and our singer), or have you never really been close from the start?

Sorry to hear this Chris. Not a team player huh? Doesn't sound like a team effort to begin with. Coming up with all this stuff on the drummer's part would be great execpt he forgot the step where he brings it to the rest of the guys in the band first to see what they think. Hey, I got an idea for a band name if you do quit. "The Plastic Oh No! Band". I only know you from this forum but you seem like you are reasonable and you put the effort into your music. You seem to want things done right. I think your drummer is being a little childish here and when he doesn't get his own way .... well. I do hope things work out for you though. I know you have put a lot of work into this.

Al the drummer and I have been playing for a couple years. I'm closer to him than anyone else in the band he lives locally and before he met Yoko we would hang out a fair bit. He is a bit stubborn and sometimes what he says isn't firmly planted in reality not sure how else to describe it. I guess he can be best described as a know it all that doesn't know it all but doesn't realize it himself.

Normally I just ignore it and it doesn't usually end up to be much of anything but he does things all the time without asking and I'm not feeling it.

This thing started a few years ago with a buddy of mine and the guitar player that passed away. We brought Jimmy the drummer in after a few months.

I don't want to be the leader per se though, but I know it won't work if he is in charge he's just not the right person.

Terry great name thats gonna be my suggestion for the band name.

I think I'm reasonable and yes I do want to do it right. I'm not about showing off or any of that I just want the band to be tight that's what matters not BS on Facebook and stupid band names. I'm suprised I haven't heard there are T shirts made already.

I think I understand the situation. Me and our our singer have had some real clashes because he, as you say, is a bit of a know it all and stubborn with it.

However, he is a nice guy and I love having a beer with him and just spending time. It is difficult, because, I know his views of the band are distorted, and even selfish but that doesn't make him a bad person, or somebody I want to fall out with.

I like him, a lot, but despair at some of the crazy things he does and says.

In short, as much as I like him, I know that if we follow his lead on everything, that we will suffer as a band, and alienate a lot of people.

It must be a difficult position for you to be in

Chris, I know that this has been a long and tortuous road, but I agree with Roy - you or the drummer has got to go. And unfortunately, you're going to have to ask the others to choose, and live with their answer.

The blues quartet I was in went through this, and we ended up "firing" the band leader, because he couldn't lead. Played guitar and sang quite well, but had little band-sense.

If you decide to try and ride it out, what are the possible good outcomes?

And should we flame the FB page? :twisted:

I know Roy and Dan are right this will end badly I'm sure but I am a bit like Al, for the most part I can deal with him on a personal level and even most of the band stuff but he pulls these off the wall moves every so often. If we can nip his thinking he's in charge thing in the bud now we can probably be ok but the girlfriend has got to stay out of it.

Nothing against women or girlfriends but since she isn't in the band she shouldn't e badding her two cents about band names etc.

I know for sure the singer doesn't like the name and I'm 99.9% sure the bass player doesn't either, the new guy who's been to two practices really shouldn't have a say but he's for it.

I've talked with the drummer since this happened and I'm pretty sure we'll end up dropping the name it'll be interesting how this gets discussed tomorrow when we are supposed to practice.

Rent out Spinal Tap, get everyone round to watch it, sit next to the drummer. Whenever the singer's girlfriend interferes laugh loudly while slapping the drummer on the back and pointing at the TV.

Rent out Spinal Tap, get everyone round to watch it, sit next to the drummer. Whenever the singer's girlfriend interferes laugh loudly while slapping the drummer on the back and pointing at the TV.
:lol: Yeah, it would sound better in doubley!

I have it

Latest update and it always gets better. Seems like no one else likes the name the drummer came up with so that will change at some point. Now to the new drama if you can call it that.

We were supposed to practice Saturday and first my pet peeves. The new guitar player brings his nephew who's like 9 or 10 and of course the drummer has to have his girlfriend Yoko tag along. I'm sorry but it's not kiddie time or time to have girlfriends there when we are trying to practice. I think this is what's gonna get me out of the band. I'd be willing to agree on maybe 1 practice a month where outsiders can come but not every week and I know this is going to get them mad at me but I can't stand it anymore.

But on to the real drama. Everyone shows up early for once and pysched to play but no bass player. We wait and wait, call him several times and after an hour call it quits of course everyone is bummed.

I get an email early the next day saying his depression kicked in and he just isolated himself, couldn't call or anything. This is the first I heard of this and I am defintely sensitive to his situation but I think the reality is it's going to happen again. So I'm not sure what to do. I def dont want to kick him out but these things dont just go away. What happens if we have a gig? I know like when are we gonna have a gig? Well we dream of it.

I can't go back to minus 1 again and try and find a bass player I like the guy we have and I know it's not his fault so we'll probably go along with him until the next time it happens, it's just a matter of time.