Myopic Music Appreciation

Voodo, close .. mine would read:

"DJANGO DJANGO DJANGO DJANGO DJANGO .. ummm what's the question?"

Yeah Django was the man. Did you guys know that he actually invented the whole concept of "lead guitar" and "rhythm guitar"?

He would also put any modern day rock guitarist to sit on their butts technicaly (but, most popular jazz guitarists can do that anyway). Yet so few are knowledgeble of his music.

*Sigh*

I wouldn't stop at just the Country and Jazz genres, that would be as limited as stopping at blues and rock.

Acid, bebop, blue grass, alternative, ballad, blues, club, dance, latin, jungle, new wave, nu-metal, trance, techno, ska, swing, tango, synphony, groove, psycodelic, punk, punk-rock, carribean, grunge, funk, rave, retro, revival, rap, soul, electrica, R&B, metal, regae, thrash, emocore, post-grunge, gospel, contemporary african, yodel, industrial, ambient, celtic, cult, disco, dream, folk, folk-rock, ethnic, gothic, gothic-rock, opera, polka, experimental, elevator, techno-industrial, rhythmic, rhythmic-soul, samba, show-tunes, cabaret, free-style, tribal, hip-hop, vocal, native-american, tango, motown, lo-fi, parody, christian, fusion, rhapsody, euro, salsa, cabaret, bass, easy-listening, primus, power-ballad, industrial-pop.

I wouldn't stop at just the Country and Jazz genres, that would be as limited as stopping at blues and rock.

Acid, bebop, blue grass, alternative, ballad, blues, club, dance, latin, jungle, new wave, nu-metal, trance, techno, ska, swing, tango, synphony, groove, psycodelic, punk, punk-rock, carribean, grunge, funk, rave, retro, revival, rap, soul, electrica, R&B, metal, regae, thrash, emocore, post-grunge, gospel, contemporary african, yodel, industrial, ambient, celtic, cult, disco, dream, folk, folk-rock, ethnic, gothic, gothic-rock, opera, polka, experimental, elevator, techno-industrial, rhythmic, rhythmic-soul, samba, show-tunes, cabaret, free-style, tribal, hip-hop, vocal, native-american, tango, motown, lo-fi, parody, christian, fusion, rhapsody, euro, salsa, cabaret, bass, easy-listening, primus, power-ballad, industrial-pop.

I have a tear running down my face from how much I'm laughing at that reply right now.

However, Ididn't just list genres off in order to prove that there are more or that I have some overwheling and vast knowledge of what has been listed. It acctaully took me and another person quite some time to think of all the genres. I made this list to show that it shouldn't be limited to a narrow minded and select few genres, like jazz, country and the like.

And I'm still bloody laughing at that reply, for the love of god I think you broke my ribcage.

And Galis' terrific list doesn't even include the (at last count) two hundred and thirty-seven different genres of metal... :wink:

Peace

and where's neo-celtic-punk?

But the whole reason I made this poll in the first place was to point out not only that the musical scene is a lot broader than the limited choices people usually focus on, but also deeper too. Guitars have been around a long time, and the constant focus on the same dozen players is, well, limiting.

Guitars have been around a long time, and the constant focus on the same dozen players is, well, limiting.

Just a matter of taste, most of the blues players I listen to never get mentioned here, doesn't make them any better or worse than SRV or Hendrix, just means my taste is a bit more eccentric and that I was exposed to some different things than others.

Alot of people on the board are young enough where they haven't started exploring the roots of where what they listen to comes from yet. Some may be happy never to explore those roots but just enjoy the fruits, it's cool if it works for them, I'm not going to be a musical snob and look down my nose and and disparage their choices because it doesn't meet my standard of what they should be listening to or because I don't think they are listening to a wide enough variety of music.

If you look in the songwriters forum or the ESDB alot of people listen to other things than the "Limited" rock and blues you mention, they just don't post much in the opinions forum

What I think is interesting is the people that I consider great, probably dont see themselves that way at all.

For example, I think my guitar teacher is a great jazz guitarist. But when I talk to him all he talks about is some guy I never heard of. He thinks he is great.. I bet if you talked to that guy he would say "Ahh, I aint that great.. But THIS other guy named X is GREAT" and so on.

Makes you wonder who people like BB King and other "greats" would think were great.

I know, i know.. Its a very simplistic thought compared to what most of you are talking about but its interesting me to think about that.

Geoo

Makes you wonder who people like BB King and other "greats" would think were great.

I've had the same experience many times over.

I find that in the areas I play, everyone points back to Django . . . not just in the Gypsy jazz world, but all jazz. And Django pointed to horn players like Armstrong for his phrasing and to classical composers like Ravel for his harmonies and melodies.

... and Armstrong would have pointed to King Oliver, and Ravel to Mussorgsky... (eventually we get to the guy banging two rocks together)

eventually we get to the guy banging two rocks together

those guys were good! :)

Just a matter of taste, most of the blues players I listen to never get mentioned here, doesn't make them any better or worse than SRV or Hendrix, just means my taste is a bit more eccentric and that I was exposed to some different things than others.

I listen to bands most people don't know of. So my favourite guitarist hasn't been mentioned at all. Does it matter? No not really. Is someone limiting themselves by not knowing her or her music? Again, no.

Is someone limiting themselves by not knowing her or her music? Again, no.

I think that depends on who you're talking about.

If the person was in fact an influential player within their genre, then anyone interested in that genre who didn't know that music would be limiting themselves.

If you want to play Texas Blues and you don't listen to the formative players of that genre you're going to miss a lot of information you need to be a successfull player in that genre.

Some players simple transcend genre, and not knowing them as a guitar player is limiting. Many of the folks who end up on these polls are in this category and rightly belong there. Lots of folks who also belong are frequently over-looked. I think in large part because in music, like in everything else, we have a tendancy to forget our history.

If the person was in fact an influential player within their genre, then anyone interested in that genre who didn't know that music would be limiting themselves.

She has an influence on me, that's all I care about. Great lead guitarist, awesome solos, which aren't common in Nu-Metal. Same with Dan Donegan, but I like how he combines effects. Like distortion and wah. I think it's way better than any of the classic guitarists.
If you want to play Texas Blues and you don't listen to the formative players of that genre you're going to miss a lot of information you need to be a successfull player in that genre.

I'm lost. I like grunge rock more than anything. So I study Kurt Cobain, Mike McCready, Kim Thayil. Even arists and bands that came out later in the era like Shirley Manson. I've also checked out John Lennon, not grunge but a huge influence on Kurt Cobain.
Some players simple transcend genre, and not knowing them as a guitar player is limiting. Many of the folks who end up on these polls are in this category and rightly belong there. Lots of folks who also belong are frequently over-looked. I think in large part because in music, like in everything else, we have a tendancy to forget our history.

If you want a guitarist that transcends genre check out Jared Leto. Singer/Guitarist/Songwriter/Actor. Not only does he cross music genres, but movie genres too!