The Advancing Guita...
 
Notifications
Clear all

The Advancing Guitarist by Mick Goodrick

7 Posts
4 Users
0 Reactions
8,113 Views
(@rgalvez)
Prominent Member
Joined: 20 years ago
Posts: 717
Topic starter   [#22780]

Hi there:
I got 'The Advancing Guitarist' by Mick Goodrick. All the reviews praise it as one of the best guitar books ever. I like the author's style, but it's a bit vague and ambigous som etimes since the author claims it is not a method book.
My question is. do anyone of you guys have read this book? Noteboat perhaps?
I'm intrigued about the 'Modal Vamps' concept which is not clearly defined.Could anyone help me with this?

Merry christmas to you all.



   
Quote
(@hbriem)
Honorable Member
Joined: 24 years ago
Posts: 646
 

I'm intrigued about the 'Modal Vamps' concept which is not clearly defined.

The perfect cadence, the resolution from V (or even more powerfully, V7) to I or i, used in major keys and the harmonic and melodic minors, is so overwhelmingly powerful that if you even veer close to it, you are likely to overwhelm any "mode" you try to stick to.

Whatever you try to do, the normal "key based" major will take over. Therefore, to play in a "mode", you need to avoid any hint of the V-I resolution.

For many "modal" songs, that means simply hanging onto a single chord, a "Modal Vamp". To play in D Dorian mode, you'd hang around in Dm6 for a long, long time, with perhaps the occasional foray into G (major, not minor), while avoiding A and A7. For songs in G Mixolydian, a G or perhaps G7 I chord with the occasional F. For E Phrygian, E minor with F and perhaps G minor while avoiding B.


--
Helgi Briem
hbriem AT gmail DOT com


   
ReplyQuote
(@rgalvez)
Prominent Member
Joined: 20 years ago
Posts: 717
Topic starter  

Thanks again for your quick reply Helgi !! :)



   
ReplyQuote
(@noteboat)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 4921
 

I haven't read that book.

Vamps are simply repeated figures, usually in the bass. Think of Brubeck's "Take Five" - that's a one-bar vamp that's constantly repeated. They usually have just two chords, sometimes three, sometimes just one (a classical basso ostinato could be considered a vamp)

As Helgi pointed out, a 'modal vamp' is simply one that doesn't use a dominant chord.


Guitar teacher offering lessons in Plainfield IL


   
ReplyQuote
(@rgalvez)
Prominent Member
Joined: 20 years ago
Posts: 717
Topic starter  

Thank you Tom!.
By the way and just for the record, Mick Goodrick is a Berklee's teacher and Pat Metheny was one of his students.In fact the book is dedicated to him.



   
ReplyQuote
(@dneck)
Prominent Member
Joined: 20 years ago
Posts: 630
 

a good way to make vamps is to pedal the tonic of whatever mode you want it to be as a bassnote over a 4 - 5 or 6 - 1 progression. For example using the notes of the C major scale if you wanted to make a Dm dorian vamp you could play D as a bassnote and then a F chord, then D as a bassnote again and a G chord. You could just make it a D F D G or 2 4 2 5 bassline if you wanted. The 5th G resolving to the 2nd D instead of the 1st C is key to making the Dm dorian sound.

Vamps create a sort of instant modal environment to solo over, if you wanted to turn the above vamp into a F lydian vamp you would play an F as the bassnote over the F-G progression.


"And above all, respond to all questions regarding a given song's tonal orientation in the following manner: Hell, it don't matter just kick it off!"
-Chris Thile


   
ReplyQuote
(@rgalvez)
Prominent Member
Joined: 20 years ago
Posts: 717
Topic starter  

Thank you all for the cool comments ! and now that they have moved this subject to this department, I sincerely recommend this book. It is really enlightning.
(If you're curious check out the many good reviews in Amazon).



   
ReplyQuote