My Son FINALLY Picked Drum Sticks Back Up

Colorado,

I think that's the way you see it, I doubt that's the way younger people see it. I'm probably older than you and I have three daughters of my own and although they can handle some "classic" rock..they surely don't see that as any better than anything they listen to now and pretty much don't like most of it.

It's all about the time when you grew up. Sure you'll find a few younger people that like classic rock, but those are the exceptions, most don't know or don't care about the classic rock era and to be honest I have a hard time with all the talk about classic rock and how that was music and the stuff today isn't.

It's the exact same argument you got from your parents 10, 20, 30 years ago and probably the same thing they'll be saying 50 years from now.

Music isn't static it's constantly changing with the times.

cnev wrote: Come on ma give him a break..that crud he's listening to on the radio is just like the same crud your parents thought you were listening to years ago...

Aww, my parents didn't know what they were talking about. :lol:

Actually, the main thing I have against the stuff he listens to on the radio is the blatant sexual references that are, or should be, inappropriate for the pre-teen set. What happened to the allure of inference and inuendo?
corbind wrote: Wish I had a wife who played bass or drums...

I didn't say I could PLAY them! :lol:
rparker wrote: not pushing him too hard on the drums and other things like bsaeball

Oh, man, made my hair stand on end to hear this one father at my son's b'ball games. His son is a great kid and a standout player, but it was never good enough for his pa. The chiding about made me blow my stack. Poor kid. And, get this, the man's little daughter is fighting a life-threatening illness. You'd think he'd have learned to appreciate his kids more. A cryin shame.

Margaret

I know, Cnev. I was making a joke. :lol:

Fender :wink:

Actually, the main thing I have against the stuff he listens to on the radio is the blatant sexual references that are, or should be, inappropriate for the pre-teen set. What happened to the allure of inference and inuendo?

Margaret
Although, some of the references WERE pretty blatant!

For example:

Zep's the Lemon Song... "baby squeeze my lemon... till the juice runs down my leg..." :shock: :shock:

The Who ... "Mama's got a squeeze box..." :shock:

and on and on. The bands of our day enjoyed disguising their sexual (and drug) references. I like that better than clearly stating them. But, don't kid yourself, our music was just as sexual.

Well, I got a repreive from Green Day. I've been instructed to learn Dirty Little Secret by All American Rejects and Take Me Out by Franz Ferdinand. Oh Yeah, and Highway To Hell by AC/DC. Got two out of three of them down decent enough. Gonna work on Franz Ferdinand tomorrow.

Margaret,

Come on ma give him a break..that crud he's listening to on the radio is just like the same crud your parents thought you were listening to years ago...
I don't know, I'm 17 and I can't stand 95% of the music that is being put out today. Bands these days just don't have the SOUL that bands had from the 60's and 70's(my favorite years!)

Plus there is the musicality and proficiency aspects, a lot of modern bands seem lazy and don't seem to work or focus on these, IMO.

Plus one of the main reasons that a lot of parents didn't approve of rock back then, is because it was just coming around and a lot of people viewed it as "evil" and "corrupting".

ColoradoFenderBender wrote: Although, some of the references WERE pretty blatant!

For example:

Zep's the Lemon Song... "baby squeeze my lemon... till the juice runs down my leg..."

The Who ... "Mama's got a squeeze box..."

and on and on. The bands of our day enjoyed disguising their sexual (and drug) references. I like that better than clearly stating them. But, don't kid yourself, our music was just as sexual.

I agree, there were sexual references then, too, but like you said, most were disguised, veiling them from the younger kids' view. The more explicit songs weren't being played on the radio where the younger kids could hear them, but were reserved for the teens who had enough money in their pockets to buy the whole album and listen to it privately.

Some of the blatant stuff being played on daytime radio now plants too much carnal knowledge square in the face of kids who are still too young for it, IMO. It used to be that we made some of those discoveries as we reached levels of readiness for them. But now, it's all right there on primetime tv and on daytime radio, ready or not...

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fuddy-duddy and I don't shock easily. My parents were very middle-of-the-road-leaning-to-the-left and I'm definitely on the liberal end of the spectrum. But I think the bar has been lowered too far by some stations.

[edit: My apologies to rparker for hijacking the thread. You are truly fortunate that your son wants to make music with you! I can tell you appreciate that, too. :D ]

Margaret

[edit: My apologies to rparker for hijacking the thread.

Margaret

That's alright. This one's more interesting. :lol:

I agree, there were sexual references then, too, but like you said, most were disguised, veiling them from the younger kids' view. The more explicit songs weren't being played on the radio where the younger kids could hear them, but were reserved for the teens who had enough money in their pockets to buy the whole album and listen to it privately.

Some of the blatant stuff being played on daytime radio now plants too much carnal knowledge square in the face of kids who are still too young for it, IMO. It used to be that we made some of those discoveries as we reached levels of readiness for them. But now, it's all right there on primetime tv and on daytime radio, ready or not...

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fuddy-duddy and I don't shock easily. My parents were very middle-of-the-road-leaning-to-the-left and I'm definitely on the liberal end of the spectrum. But I think the bar has been lowered too far by some stations.

Margaret

You are totally right, Maraget. The references were disguised, but only because the record companies and radio stations wouldn't support songs and artists if they were blatant. Times were different (IMO better) then, from that standpoint. It seems that the limits of decency have been pushed much further over the last 25 years or so. I imagine, if our generation's bands were allowed to, they would have been blatant too. In fact, they initiated a lot of the "problems" we have now: (1) they glamorized drug & alcohol abuse, (2) engaged in and supported casual sexual behaviour (lol - funny term, in today's context), (3) and started to push the limits of "acceptable" entertainment (but heck, all of that was going on for years - anyone remember what the Rat Pack were up to??).

I also don't like most music of today. I think that it has become more of a marketing thing than an expression of musical thoughts and talent. Most "pop stars" today don't even play an instrument or write their own material. They are much more like actors than musicians. IMO, this started with the coming of MTV - a product of our generation. Suddenly, what you looked like was MUCH more important than how you sounded! Madonna owes her fortune to MTV, although IMO she can barely sing and is an okay dancer - but, she was very good on tv. Today's pop stars sing (many do so badly) and dance, and can look good in front of a camera. And a lot just look good half naked! Can you imagine the Rolling Stones trying to get signed if they were young today???

But, the only one to blame for allowing this to happen is the music consumer. If no one bought their garbage, they wouldn't be pop stars. I prefer to enjoy our "old" music acts, they may not look good (especially at their steadly advancing ages), but they can still actually make music I like. That is why many of our old bands are still touring and making a fortune!